Answer: This is not a simple question to answer because there are many
conceptions and ideas about God even within Christianity, and Buddhism
also has different ideas about God. So what do you mean when you say
"God?"
Question: I mean the God who created the world, revealed Himself in the
Bible, and who so loved the world that he sent His only beloved Son for
our salvation.
Answer: Well, those are three different conceptions of God which you
have just listed, so let's take them one at a time.
1. "The God who created the world." -- Buddhists have a problem with this
because we view the world as part of a larger cosmos that is at least as
big as that taught by modern science, and in addition we believe that
this universe includes realms that transcend the physical universe.
Furthermore, this universe is believed to arise and fall in accordance
with causes and conditions in a rhythmic process that takes billions of
years to go through just one cycle. This is similar to the modern
scientific idea of a big bang and then a big crunch, except that
Buddhism teaches that the universe expands and contracts repeatedly over
countless eons. The Buddha also taught that we should not concern
ourselves with speculations concerning the ultimate beginning or end of
this process (assuming that this process is not beginningless and
endless) but rather we should focus on taking responsibility for our
lives and strive to extinguish suffering by living a noble life
characterized by such qualities as loving-kindness, compassion, joy,
peace, generosity, virtue, and patience to name a few. To engage in
fruitless cosmological speculations instead of working on the practical
issue of suffering and the liberation from suffering would be like
getting shot and while bleeding to death refusing to go to the hospital
for treatment until you knew who shot you, why they shot you, what kind
of gun they used, what kind of bullet etc... So, the priority should be
on resolving our actual human condition and not speculating on the
beginning or end of the universe. So from this perspective, whether God
created the universe or not, we are still faced with suffering and its
causes and we must do something about it through learning what
constitutes a noble life and then finding a way to live such a life.
Aside from the priority of dealing with actual issues versus
cosmological speculation, Buddhism also teaches that all things arise
and cease depending on causes and conditions. When we say that
everything is "empty," we do not mean that things do not exist. What we
mean is that things are always elements in a process of change and
interdependence. When we learn to see things as processes and not as
isolated finite objects then we will see that to talk of something being
"created" or "destroyed" is only true conventionally. The network of
causes and conditions that bring any "thing" into existence is actually
a never-ending process with no boundaries. So in this sense, Buddhism
never speaks of "creation" or "destruction," "birth" or "death,"
"appearance" or "disappearance," because that way of talking about things
misses the infinite open-endedness and inclusivity of the process which
is the reality behind the "things" that we perceive and try to grasp.
This holds true for chairs, people, planets, or universes. This is the
other reason why Buddhism does not speak of a creation or a Creator,
because the reality of life, the universe, and everything defies such
concepts.
There is also the inherent contradiction in insisting that there
must be a God who caused the universe because everything must have a
cause, but then insisting that God is an exception to the rule that
everything must have a cause. Either one must insist that everything has
a cause, including God, or one must admit that things do not always need
causes and therefore you can not insist that the world or the universe
must have a cause. This logical dilemma is another reason why Buddhism
does not speak of a creation or a Creator.
Part 1b: God the Creator
Having said all this however, there are two ways in which a
Creator does appear in Buddhism after all. The first case is as the
deity Brahma. Brahma was the all-powerful creator deity of Brahmanism
(the religion that today is known as Hinduism). In Buddhism, Brahma
appears when the Buddha attains enlightenment and is the one who
convinces him to share his profound realization out of compassion for
all suffering beings. Brahma is then viewed as the protector of the
Dharma (or Truth taught by the Buddha).
Other times however, Brahma is shown to be no better than the
Greek Zeus, the chief of the gods but not the actual creator of the
universe. Though he tries to make others think that he is omnipotent and
omniscient, he is actually just as much a part of the process of life as
all other beings and not its originator. However, these less than
flattering representations of Brahma are probably directed more towards
the pretenses and limited conceptions of Brahma held by the priests of
Brahma in the time of the Buddha than they are towards Brahma as an
actual being.
This leads to the next problem. The conception of Brahma or God
taught by the Brahmanist priests was very similar to that taught by most
Christians today. But when you really look at the image being taught, it
is not much different from the mythological Zeus. God is reduced by
unreflective piety to a mere being among beings, even if he is a
"Supreme Being." As a being among beings, God is no longer a
transcendent reality but just another being caught up in the process.
This very primitive and even idolatrous conception of God is what the
Buddha was poking fun of at the expense of the priests who claimed to be
God's representatives on earth who could decide who will be saved and
who will be damned. In the Buddha's teachings, however, other images of
Brahma come through which are much more mystical and edifying, this will
be covered further on in this FAQ.
The second way in which a Creator appears is as the Dharmakaya
Buddha. The Dharmakaya Buddha is the Truth-body or Reality-body of the
Buddha. We are no longer speaking about an individualized man or woman,
nor are we even talking about a pantheistic concept such as "Nature" or
"Being." The Dharmakaya Buddha is the unfathomable mystical reality
without which there would be no true nature of reality. In this sense,
it is the ground or "creator" of all beings and things. It is the basis
of the process of causes and conditions, but it is also beyond the
process as well. That is because causes and conditions are merely the
phenomenal aspect of the Dharmakaya. In other words, it is the
Dharmakaya as experienced by our finite minds and senses. Now the
Dharmakaya is not a being or person, but it is not impersonal either. It
defies any and all such categories, but one could say that the
Dharmakaya becomes personal in and through us and our interactions with
each other and the world that we live in. In this way, the Dharmakaya
becomes very personal through the manifestation of individuals like
Shakyamuni and also as a loving spiritual presence underlying our every
experience and especially in our own awakenings and acts of compassion.
In Mahayana Buddhism this is discussed in terms of the three bodies of
the Buddha. Buddha-nature is another term for the Dharmakaya in terms of
its presence in our lives.
Question: So, you avoid talking about a creation or a Creator because
you believe that these concepts are logically flawed and distracting
from actual spiritual practice. And you believe that the Dharmakaya or
buddha-nature, is the true nature of reality which is the basis of the
universe and acts in our lives so that we can free ourselves and others
of suffering and manifest the ideal qualities of love, compassion, and
wisdom that you spoke of. Is this correct?
Answer: That would be a good way of putting it.
Question: Then why not just call the Dharmakaya or buddha-nature God and
explain how it is different from the usual understanding?
Answer: Two reasons. The first is that I teach the Buddhist tradition in
its own terms. I do not want to confuse things by incorporating
terminology from other sources. Secondly, I think that there are too
many connotations to the word "God" that are problematic. Unfortunately,
even when you explain what you mean, the word still tends to make people
think of an old man with a beard and a bolt of lighting like Zeus. The
word just creates more problems than it solves in my opinion. That does
not mean I reject the deeper reality that the word or name "God" is
trying to point to, it is just that I find that word can act as a
barrier as much as a window to the infinite, and in keeping with the
Buddhist tradition whose terms and concepts I find more liberating, I
choose to avoid using it.
Part 2a: God in the Bible
2. "God revealed Himself in the Bible." -- I was raised to believe that I
should always think for myself, that I should discern fantasy from
reality, that violence is not something that should be glorified, and
that God is greater than our ability to describe in words or to limit
with ideas. For these reasons, I do not accept the Bible as a unique
authority on God or any other subject. That does not mean that I dismiss
it entirely, however.
To begin with, I will not accept anything just because it is
written in the Bible. As far as I am concerned the Hebrew Scriptures
(Old Testament from the Christian point of view) is a collection of the
tribal legends, historical records, and religious writings of the
ancient Hebrews. I am a modern American - not an ancient Hebrew.
Therefore, my entire worldview is informed by scientific data and
cultural assumptions that are extremely far removed from those of the
ancient Hebrews. Unlike them, just to name a few examples, I am
convinced that this universe is billions of years old; that life as it
now appears on Earth is part of an ongoing process of evolution; that
different languages and dialects developed over time; that it is not an
abomination to eat pork, shrimp, or lobster, or to mix beef and dairy
products; that slavery is immoral; that it is immoral to execute
disrespectful children; and that one is never justified in committing
genocide or ethnic cleansing. The ancient Hebrews, however, were
ignorant of modern astrophysics, ignorant of geology, ignorant of the
fossil record and carbon dating, they believed that all of the existing
language groups originated from God's curse at the tower of Babel, they
believed that it is an abomination to eat certain kinds of foods or to
prepare foods in certain ways, they believed that disrespect to God or
one's parent's is a capital offense, they practiced slavery, and they
believed that God had commanded them to kill every man, woman, and child
in certain towns during the conquest of the promised land (in other
cases the men and boys were killed and the woman and girls enslaved).
So, for scientific and moral reasons I do not view the Bible as an
authority.
The Bible also relates stories wherein a donkey speaks to its
master, a flood covers the entire world and all life on earth today is
descended from only the animals aboard Noah's ark, a woman turns into a
pillar of salt, people are lifted up bodily into the heavens never to
return, the sun stands still in the sky, and finally a man physically
comes back from the dead and proceeds to walk through walls and ascend
bodily into the heavens. I am leaving out a lot of other miraculous
tales that are either logistically impossible, or which could be
explained in a more rational way. The point is that the reality I live
in does not operate that way, and I have never been given any good
reason to believe that any of these things happened in real life other
than the testimony of the ancient Hebrews who (as I said) had a
prescientific mythical worldview; and the testimony of a small sect of
Judaism which became the nucleus of a minor mystery religion in the
Roman Empire, which eventually became the official religion of that
empire, which then become the reigning religious ideology of various
European nation-states. I must say that I require objective, empirical,
and verifiable and irrefutable evidence before I throw common sense out
the window and accept that any of these things happened in real life.
I apply the same standard to the more fantastical stories and
anecdotes which appear in Buddhism. In Buddhism, however, the fantastic
elements are never the main point and they almost always exist to
underscore a point that does make sense. In most cases, the metaphorical
nature of the supernatural and miraculous in Buddhism is very easy to
see and the Buddhist scriptures themselves state that they are using
metaphorical language on many occasions.
I also cannot accept the Biblical God's use of violence, terror,
and threats to get people to do what He wants. This includes Joshua's
conquest of the promised land, the behavior of the Judges, Jesus and St.
Paul's threats of eternal damnation for those who do not believe, and
finally the Armageddon promised in the Book of Revelations. Jesus even
says at one point that he comes not to bring peace but a sword to divide
families against one another (Matthew 10:34). It seems to me that the
violence and threats of violence in the Bible are nothing more than a
very human way of abdicating responsibility and laying all of our very
human shortcomings at God's door. I do not accept the Biblical portrait
of a God who commands, condones, and makes use of violence and terror.
Part 2b: God in the Bible
Finally, I do not believe that everything that could be said
about such an infinite reality as God has been said in the Bible. I have
read too widely in the scriptures of the other great religious
traditions of the world than to believe that everything worth saying has
been said only in the Bible. The Hindu scripture called the Srimad
Bhagavatam, just to name one, is to the Bible what a textbook on
particle physics is to a book on algebra. Not only that, but I believe
that all words and stories, no matter how sublime, should act as fingers
pointing to the moon. They should not be mistaken for the moon itself.
Another way of putting this, is that the God portrayed in the Bible is,
at best, a faint reflection in muddy water of the full moon shining
overhead. I think that we need to stop being so fixated on dead words
and try to have a direct experience of the living reality instead.
Buddhist scriptures, or sutras, present a far more refined and
uplifting description of the divine reality which we awaken to once we
are free of our finite, materialistic, and self-centered point of view.
The Buddha describes God (he called him Brahma, since he had never heard
the Germanic word "God" or the Jewish "YHWH") as one who resides in the
highest of the heavens and who is perfect in his love, compassion, joy,
and equanimity. This God is one we can unite with if we develop those
same qualities in ourselves. But even this is a limited conception of
God according to Buddhism.
The experience of nirvana is spoken of as a state beyond birth
and death, beyond any possible conception or description. It can not be
spoken of in terms of anything that our finite minds can relate to. But
it is the supreme reality that is beyond causes and conditions which we
can awaken to even within this lifetime, though this awakening may be
only the beginning of something even more unimaginable upon death as
implied by the term parinirvana (complete nirvana). Nirvana is not a
state of annihilation though it is selfless. It is spoken of in terms of
being pure, blissful, eternal, and the basis of true selfhood - though
even these terms are only used analogously - the truth being beyond even
these. Nirvana is not a person, place, or thing but it is not
nothingness either.
On some occasions the Buddha even spoke of nirvana as Brahma or
God, but again only analogously. The Buddha did not want to directly
identify the realization of nirvana with God realization because that
term meant different things to different people depending upon their
idea of God. So to prevent confusion, the Buddha spoke more in terms of
what nirvana is not rather than in terms of what it is. He certainly did
not want to identify it with a name like "God" which was already too
loaded with all kind of misleading connotations. Just as importantly,
the Brahmanist priests were using their scriptures and their alleged
ability to mediate God's will to impose their power over others. The
Buddha wanted to avoid this pitfall of someone presuming to be able to
mediate the will of God, by avoiding such rhetoric entirely. The Buddha
did not claim to speak for God, rather he simply pointed the way to a
direct experience of that which others speak of as God.
Part 3: God's Son
3. "God so loved the world that he sent his only Son for our salvation."
-- Once again, this presumes that God is a person who can beget a Son in
some metaphysical manner, and then send that Son into the world to
receive one of the most awful, torturous, and humiliating deaths that
humanity has devised so that he could then forgive people for their
sinful imperfection. This Son then comes back from the dead, defying all
known laws of biology and physics and then physically ascends into
heaven, thus defying astrophysics as well. I think that it is very
likely that there is a sublime spiritual truth that is being conveyed by
the New Testament, but as a rational human being I can not make any
sense of the story if it must be understood in a crude and literal
fashion.
Buddhists do not doubt that Brahma is loving, compassionate,
joyful, and full of peace. Brahma can also be reborn as a human being.
But one must remember that Brahma is the Buddhist portrayal of God as a
person or being among beings, the higher conception of a supreme reality
is Dharmakaya. The Dharmakaya is always making itself known through its
sambhogakayas (enjoyment-bodies) and its nirmanakayas (transformation
bodies). This is a complex Mahayana teaching beyond the scope of this
FAQ, but let me relate these ideas here to the Christian worldview. The
enjoyment-bodies are the personal aspects of the Dharmakaya which are
apprehended as a very personal presence in our lives. The
enjoyment-bodies touch our hearts and minds with the ideal qualities of
buddhahood including love, compassion, and wisdom. In the sutras, the
sambhogakayas are even portrayed as transcendent figures or beings who
reside in various pure lands from whence their compassion and wisdom
embraces all beings. A sambhogakaya has many similarities with the Holy
Spirit or the Risen Lord. A transformation-body is the historical
actualization of the Dharmakaya and sambhogakaya in the life of a
specific individual - Shakyamuni Buddha for instance. Through such a
person, we are able to hear the teachings, learn the methods for
realizing the truth in our own lives, and see for ourselves how a fully
enlightened person acts in the world. It must be stressed that these
three bodies are not separate, they are three aspects of one reality,
and to the extent that we awaken, we will also participate in that
reality as well.
It also needs to be said that according to Buddhism there are
also many bodhisattvas or "enlightening beings" who are constantly
reborn into this world from the pure lands. These bodhisattvas
voluntarily take up all forms of suffering and bestow all their merits
upon others due to their compassionate vows to save all beings. In a
sense, they have renounced their own liberation until they can be sure
that all beings will be liberated from suffering. In many ways, their
acts of renunciation, their willingness to suffer for the sake of
others, and their bestowal of the rewards for their own good conduct
upon others is similar to the story of a savior who renounces divinity,
enters the world, suffers for the sake of others, and then rises and
ascends into heaven in order to prepare a way for others. The
bodhisattva is a prototype of such a savior, and one that appears
centuries before the Christian era.
Part 4: God in Buddhism?
Question: Well, I am confused. On the one hand you say that you do not
believe in a personal God who is the Creator, who has revealed himself
in the Bible, and who has given his only Son to die for our sins so that
we can have eternal life; but then you say that Brahma is like God, that
the Dharmakaya is like God, that nirvana is like God, and that the
bodhisattvas are like God the Son. How can all of these be God?
Answer: I can ask, in turn, how could God the Father, God the Son, and
God the Holy Spirit all be God without being three Gods or one God with
a multiple personality? However, the point is not to justify an
irrational doctrine, but to realize that anytime you try to describe a
transcendent reality in human language you are going to end up with
paradoxes. I am not trying to set up a paradox or mystify anyone. The
fact is that if God can only be understood as "a personal God who is the
Creator, who has revealed himself in the Bible, and who has given his
only Son to die for our sins so that we can have eternal life" then I
can not believe in God, because I do not find that description of God
very credible or even intelligible. On the other hand, I think that the
reality of which the word "God" is just a label or pointer can be more
intelligibly described in terms of:
a) God described as a being like Brahma who personifies love,
compassion, joy, and equanimity who works to protect the Truth and
ensure its spread in this world. While Brahma is not apart from nor the
originator of the true nature of reality, he is the most powerful and
spiritually refined of all those beings who have not awakened to the
selfless nature of reality. He appreciates the truth of selflessness,
but still insists on clinging to a finite ego separate from others. In
some ways, Brahma is like the Greek Zeus, a literal father in heaven.
This persona of God may be easier for some to relate to, and Buddhism
does not deny that for some people this can be helpful, but Buddhism
also insists that there are much deeper realizations of divinity.
b) God described as a more refined notion like the Dharmakaya, which is
the true nature of reality that is not a person but which is always
being expressed and related to in a very warm and personal way. The
problem with this conception is that it is just a conception, a mere
abstraction, if it is not directly realized for oneself.
c) God as an actual realization of the purity, bliss, eternity, and true
selfhood of nirvana. This is the realization of the birthless and
deathless nature of supreme reality. Once again, this description is
only helpful as a pointer to direct realization. Nirvana is really an
anti-conception and is not trying to be a description of God or any
"thing" else. The whole point of nirvana is that it is a teaching device
to help us let go of all those attitudes and ideas which prevent us from
seeing and living in the reality which others speak of as "God." This
negative method, however, can also be misleading if it ends up leading
one to a state of withdrawal and apathy, which is another way of missing
the point.
d) God actively engaged in the world as a bodhisattva. The bodhisattva
ideal shows that the actual experience of nirvana is about living for
others, not enjoying spiritual peace by oneself. The bodhisattva ideal
depicts reality working in and as the lives of those who are free of
self-centeredness and self-consciousness and who are able to dedicate
all their efforts for the liberation of all beings. This is God as
active and embodied and fully immanent in the lives of all beings. The
bodhisattva ideal also recognizes that this active embodiment must be
based upon a transcendent freedom which is another way of understanding
God. It should also be noted that Buddhism implies that Brahma is also a
bodhisattva who has appeared as Brahma in order to help others.
Again, the Buddhist tradition did not develop the need to used
the term "God" in connection with these ideas (except in the case of
Brahma who is a personal deity). Rather, the Buddhist tradition
developed in reaction to the misunderstandings, confusion, and even
oppression of the masses spread by the Brahmanist priests in the name of
God or Brahma. The Buddha was not concerned with denying the reality of
the Divine, the Buddha was concerned with liberating people from fear
based and superstitious views of Divinity so that they could directly
experience the reality that people have labeled as God.
Part 5: The Bible
Question: So as a Buddhist, you totally reject the Bible?
Answer: I would not say that I totally reject it. I certainly do not
take every word of it literally. I certainly would not take it's word
for scientific or historical facts until they have been checked with
empirically verifiable sources. I do, however, see it as a valuable,
intriguing, and sometimes even inspiring record of the Jewish people's
growing understanding of God in terms of their own history, and of the
early Christian community's experience of God through Jesus Christ. I
recognize that many of the cultural attitudes, references, and values of
the culture I have grown up in are rooted in the Bible. For that reason
alone, I study it and I think that future generations should at least be
familiar with it. However, that does not mean that I accept it as any
truer than any other such record or scripture.
In addition, my values were never directly shaped by the Bible,
but by the Enlightenment values upheld by the founders of this country,
many of whom were Deists but not Christians. Those values of the right
of the individual to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, as
well the egalitarian and democratic values embodied in the Declaration
of Independence and the Constitution, and the values of tolerance and
rational inquiry that I grew up with have a far stronger hold on me than
the Levitical code or the Epistles of St. Paul. I definitely choose the
values of the European Enlightenment and the founding fathers of this
country over what I see as the very dubious values of the ancient
Hebrews and St. Paul. In addition, I also find that the values and
teachings of the Buddha are far more in line with the rational and
humanistic values of the founding fathers and the Enlightenment than is
the Bible.
Part 6: Jesus Christ
Question: What do Buddhists believe about Jesus Christ then, if they do
not believe in the Bible as an authority or the God of the Bible?
Answer: Buddhist find much to admire in the life and teachings of Jesus.
Different Buddhists have different ideas about Jesus's place in the
Buddhist worldview. Most Mahayana Buddhists would see him as an
exemplary bodhisattva. I would agree with this. I see Jesus as an
embodiment of the bodhisattva ideal. He did not teach the unique
teachings of Buddhism concerning the four noble truths or dependent
origination so I can not see him as a Buddha. Furthermore, his
experience of God as Abba (the Aramaic word for "Daddy") seems to
describe a very devotional and intimate personal relationship to Brahma.
However, his selflessness is suggestive of one who has realized nirvana
and he attempted to convey that to others in terms of being
"born-again." His disciples experience of the Risen Lord does seem to
match the Buddhist description of the sambhogakaya - a limited form of
which is possessed by the bodhisattvas who are able to emanate many
spiritual bodies for the sake of suffering beings. So in many ways, the
life and teachings of Jesus are not incompatible with Buddhism if Jesus
is understood to be a bodhisattva who attempted to convey as much as he
could of the Dharma (Truth) in terms his contemporaries could
understand.
In Mahayana Buddhism, it is taught that the buddhas and
bodhisattvas appear throughout the universe in order to convey the
Dharma in different ways to different beings. To do this, they employ
what is called upaya or "provisional methods." This means that if they
can not convey the Dharma directly, they will find a way to express it
in a way that their listeners can understand and work with. In this way,
they can gradually mature those beings to the point where they can
understand the Dharma directly either in that lifetime or in a future
lifetime. Sometimes, they just try to provide a way for beings to attain
the heavenly pure lands where they can meet the sambhogakaya buddhas and
learn the Dharma from them. Jesus's remark that he was going to prepare
a place for his disciples, and that in heaven there were many mansions,
and that he had other flocks his disciples did not know about are all
very suggestive of such an arrangement. St. Paul also suggests that in
the end, people will see clearly and not through a glass darkly.
Part 7: The Afterlife
Question: So what do you think will happen to us when we die?
Answer: The witty Zen come-back to this question is "I do not know. I
have not died yet." However, I will tell you what I believe. I think
that whatever we put our faith in is what we will gravitate towards upon
our death. Now, I do not mean what we "say" we believe in. I mean what
is really in our hearts. What is it that we truly have confidence in,
truly take joy in from the depths of our being? If one has faith in the
Buddha, one will go to the buddha-lands after death and directly hear
the Dharma and attain buddhahood, or at least become a great bodhisattva
and embark on the mission to share the Dharma with all others throughout
the universe. That is the mythical description, the truth defies any
adequate explanation but I will gladly speak of it in traditional terms.
Buddhahood, by the way, does not mean becoming a "super-being"
nor does it mean extinguishing one's selfhood or individuality. Rather,
it means being freed of the limitations of a finite self dependent upon
a specific form, or set of feelings, perceptions, ideas, habits, or
self-consciousness. To use Christian language, one attains a body of
glory and participates freely in the life of God. I think that many
Christians may be able to accomplish the same thing, though of course
they would not describe it the same way. It is my conviction that the
reality transcends any idea of it in any case, and that as the Lotus
Sutra says: "What we attain will be greater than anything we could have
asked for or imagined."